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Jason X
Sept 30, 2009 9:56:28 GMT -5
Post by GL on Sept 30, 2009 9:56:28 GMT -5
It's 27 actually if you don't take into account the hundreds of thousands that died on the exploding ship. But it's actually what you said, a great, action-packed entry.
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Jason X
Nov 12, 2009 10:46:00 GMT -5
Post by GL on Nov 12, 2009 10:46:00 GMT -5
I was watching Mybusters last night, and it seems they tried to emulate the frozen-head-smash on the show, and while they did they're best to re-do it, they couldn't replicate the movie, despite the fact that, 1) They never tried to replicate the strength required to do so; 2) They never managed to see it was possible at all; 3) They utterly failed at several key points during the scene instead of a full-on recreation of the scene, which left me totally pissed at what happened. I would've loved to see if it was possible.
Though the very fact that they referred to it as "Jason 10" should've been the clue they weren't going to go through with it very carefully.
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Jason X
Nov 12, 2009 12:26:03 GMT -5
Post by CT on Nov 12, 2009 12:26:03 GMT -5
What did they use for a head GL?
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Jason X
Nov 13, 2009 10:49:49 GMT -5
Post by GL on Nov 13, 2009 10:49:49 GMT -5
There was three tests, one with a head molded completely out of ice, one with a ballistics gel surrounding an actual human skull frozen for five seconds, and the same thing only the head was frozen for five minutes. Then they did unaltered pig heads for five seconds and fifteen minutes and couldn't get it, so they simply called it busted. And there was several problems I had that definitely screwed it up and would've been fun to try:
1. The initial sequence was bang-bang: He dunks her, then pulls her up and in one motion, slams her down. What they did was dunk it, admire the handiwork, walk around the shop to place it in position, then set-up the rig they were going to use to smash it, got behind the safety glass, counted down and then fired it. Granted, it may not have worn off that quickly, but in their quest for accuracy, all that additional work just didn't seem likely.
2. They never once tested the velocity at which her head was hitting the sink. They just got the machine, put the ice head in and let it rip, calling that the control. Again, no testing to see how hard she was going to be hitting the sink.
3. Usually, they try to replicate it in real life to see what would be required to do it. The pig-heads failed, they called it and moved on. Even if it failed, I would've liked to see if there was a way to be sure it could happen.
And all of that was failing to take into account the fact that Jason is a lot stronger than the average male (and from the footage during the cargo bay scene, even trained military officers as well) or the fact that the scene was when they were already in the future, and they didn't know if there was any advancements in the development of liquid nitrogen. All around a poor segment.
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Jason X
Nov 13, 2009 16:07:21 GMT -5
Post by HNT on Nov 13, 2009 16:07:21 GMT -5
THey also didn't allow for his status as a revived zombie, or for the potentially unusual gravitational pull that likely would have been present on a space station. I dunno, man. I like Mythbusters but I have to think that the mistake was even tackling this one. After all, does anyone in the world really believe that much of anything that happens in this series is possible? THat show is at its best when it tests stunts and things that people actually believe could happen
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Jason X
Nov 14, 2009 14:39:19 GMT -5
Post by Jen on Nov 14, 2009 14:39:19 GMT -5
I dunno, man. I like Mythbusters but I have to think that the mistake was even tackling this one. Pretty much.....because there would be NO way to please people with this one. No matter what myth or situation they are testing, they can only test what is possible in a certain time and place, with the equipment and technology readily available. They simply can't accurately test all of the elements that went into the scene. Its impossible. And would be ridiculous to try considering the time, financial and safety constraints they are under. It probably just basically helps to illustrate how implausible this would be at anytime, under any situation other than a situation in the future where a super strong reanimated zombie killing machine is on the loose in a space station......
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Jason X
Nov 14, 2009 15:04:22 GMT -5
Post by CT on Nov 14, 2009 15:04:22 GMT -5
They should tackle my Tom Savini The Burning theory while they're at it.
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Jason X
Nov 16, 2009 10:48:57 GMT -5
Post by GL on Nov 16, 2009 10:48:57 GMT -5
They also didn't allow for his status as a revived zombie, or for the potentially unusual gravitational pull that likely would have been present on a space station. I dunno, man. I like Mythbusters but I have to think that the mistake was even tackling this one. After all, does anyone in the world really believe that much of anything that happens in this series is possible? That show is at its best when it tests stunts and things that people actually believe could happen. Exactly, man. That whole segment was just wrong all the way around, and like you, felt it shouldn't have been done since it's impossible to work it out in a way that guarantees accurate results.
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