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Post by GL on May 10, 2010 9:41:22 GMT -5
It's not that there was a stylistic change, I just don't care for such scenes in a horror film. That's what bothered me more than anything about it.
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Post by HNT on May 10, 2010 10:32:18 GMT -5
So, does that mean then that you don't want the characters in a horror film to have personality traits that you can respond to? personally, I prefer a movie in any genre where I care about the characters as something more than readily available victims. This film managed to set up a circumstance where the death of Harvey Keitel and his son actually had some emotional heft behind them. That is worthwhile and praiseworthy in my book. Like I said, I totally dug the transition. I just wanted to know more about the vampires than we wound up knowing.
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Post by GL on May 11, 2010 9:43:52 GMT -5
I couldn't give two flying fucks about any of that. If your film is about vampires hunting unsuspecting victims in a Mexican strip club, I expect that by the 30 minute mark something has to have started in order for the film to delve into that story. This one focuses on the kidnappers and their exploits before we even get the slightest clue this will be a horror film, as we don't even get to Mexico till about an hour in. I don't care about that, I want to watch vampires hunting people in a strip club, that to me is where this film falls because of that aspect of the story. It's not just that those scenes are dull, we don't know it's a horror film at all, and that pisses me off.
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Post by abraxas on May 12, 2010 8:51:19 GMT -5
"This one focuses on the kidnappers and their exploits before we even get the slightest clue this will be a horror film" That's the entire point of the film When you go out today will you be expecting vampires to show up and attack you? Well neither did they Its not about vampires at a strip club, its about two robbers who unexpectedly run into vampires at a strip club, if they knew there were vampires at the strip club, they would have not gone to the strip club ....Maybe its better if you had never seen the movie at all
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Post by GL on May 12, 2010 9:40:08 GMT -5
Well, too bad. I did, and you're stuck with that opinion. I hate that kind of crap, as well as those kinds of movies and worse, I hate horror films that do that, so I knock the film for that.
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Post by HNT on May 13, 2010 16:32:07 GMT -5
lol at this whole conversation. I just wanna know who gave this a one? GL gave it a 4 and everyone else who commented seemed to like it, so who rated it so low and why?
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Post by GL on May 14, 2010 9:39:29 GMT -5
You, Me, CT, Jen and Matt are the ones who have voted so far, so it looks like all signs point to Matt being the one. Probably forgot that the one on the top wasn't a 5, as it usually is with our polls, and a 1 is in the top spot instead.
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Post by abraxas on May 16, 2010 11:22:40 GMT -5
I just voted, gave it a 5, I think its a perfect movie, fun old school horror.
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Post by GL on May 17, 2010 9:38:35 GMT -5
Kinda new to be old-school, but I've never thrown that tag around with movies before anyway so I guess it would fit here.
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Post by abraxas on May 18, 2010 11:38:07 GMT -5
Yes very old school Bro one CG shot used in the entire film, all the gore was done with practical effects just like they use to.
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Post by GL on May 19, 2010 9:37:11 GMT -5
Wouldn't it be a tone and content issue rather than a technical one? There's a crapload of films that eschew the use of CGI, doesn't make them old-school. It's tone and content, not that way.
Unless I'm really off-base with that tag, which I think I could be.
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Post by abraxas on May 20, 2010 12:42:50 GMT -5
I believe you are, they would have to forgo CGI, particularly if it didn't exits at the time
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Post by GL on May 21, 2010 9:41:38 GMT -5
So the absence of CGI, regardless of anything else in a film, in a modern-ish filmed movie automatically dictates it as being 'old-school'? Doesn't fly with me, there has to be other factors involved for that to happen.
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Post by CT on May 21, 2010 12:21:34 GMT -5
Lack of CGI alone doesn't make it oldscbool but I think that was the aim of the makers of this one in avoiding cgi and trying to do it the old fashioned way.
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Post by abraxas on May 23, 2010 9:13:22 GMT -5
What he said
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