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Post by Clathian Salvator on Aug 7, 2012 13:12:46 GMT -5
Oh well, in my further attempt to twist everyones arm, Ill be posting a list of the changes Ive made
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Post by HNT on Aug 7, 2012 13:14:07 GMT -5
I feel no arm twisting. No worries, man
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Post by Clathian Salvator on Aug 7, 2012 13:56:43 GMT -5
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Post by GL on Aug 8, 2012 10:24:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure if it should be called censorship or not. Perhaps, but then every piece of edited artwork would qualify as something that has been censored. If it is censorship, I would say that a fan made re-imagining of a film series is a pretty innocent form of it. Especially considering the original versions are widely available. If a major dvd outlet decided to pick up Clath's version of the Halloween series and discard the original versions, then I would have a problem as far as censorship is concerned. Granted, there is a point there, CT. As he said, this is a fan-made re-editing and is not being made for wholesale distribution the way you said with the edits being made available for everyone on the planet to have access to if they walked into a DVD outlet and strolled into the Horror section. That's not being done here, so I'm not arguing that point at all. But what I'm saying is that he's not the original creator of the artwork nor is he possessor of the rights to the movie (it doesn't take much to suppose those points as being true, if we're being judicial about this) so therefore he's taking the films as they were original intending them to be and removing those feature that which he alone doesn't agree with. This should be done by the creators themselves, not by someone else who has no attachment to the original work in the first place. If you don't like the films, follow HNT's advice and don't own what you don't like. It's as it is, like it or not, and if you don't, too bad.
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Post by Clathian Salvator on Aug 9, 2012 13:05:21 GMT -5
You must not have seen many docs or listened to fans discus the franchise, because many many many people don't like some the things they did in the films. Hell, even John Carpenter hates the whole 'Mikael is Laurie's brother' thing, and he's the one that wrote it. I can't count on my hands AND fingers how many people despise the 'thorn curse' idea. Or how many people hated what was done in Halloween III, what was done in Halloween 5....Resurrection.........etc etc etc etc. I agree with the last part, so....anyone who doesnt like my re-edit of Halloween........................Too bad.
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Post by CK on Aug 10, 2012 3:05:21 GMT -5
Here is my re edit of the Halloween series watch 1, 2 and 4 back to back to back and let the rest of them eat a dick.
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Post by HNT on Aug 10, 2012 9:37:24 GMT -5
Here is my re edit of the Halloween series watch 1, 2 and 4 back to back to back and let the rest of them eat a dick. Not quite my list, but you have the right idea for sure.
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Post by GL on Aug 10, 2012 10:04:47 GMT -5
You must not have seen many docs or listened to fans discus the franchise, because many many many people don't like some the things they did in the films. Hell, even John Carpenter hates the whole 'Mikael is Laurie's brother' thing, and he's the one that wrote it. I can't count on my hands AND fingers how many people despise the 'thorn curse' idea. Or how many people hated what was done in Halloween III, what was done in Halloween 5....Resurrection.........etc etc etc etc. I agree with the last part, so....anyone who doesnt like my re-edit of Halloween........................Too bad. You're altering a work that is not your own to fit in with guidelines/criteria that were not imposed by the original creators when it was first released. That's still censorship to me, and all it ever will be.
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Post by Clathian Salvator on Aug 11, 2012 16:18:04 GMT -5
List of changes: Laurie never had a son, the guy in H20 is just a student at the school where she works The little girl from 5 and 6 is not related to Mikael Myers or Laurie Strode The people who live in the Myers house in part 5 are just a family that happen to live in the house, I call them the "Thorns" The little boy from 5, the little girl from 6 are not related to Mikael, but they do share a connection to him Sorry, Loomis did in fact die in the fire from part 2 (sorta) Mikael did in fact die in the same fire, but don't worry, that wasn't the real Mikael Myers anyway ::I mean come on, there were flames coming out of his eyes. Then in part 4 he what-regenerates his skin? Who does he think he is Jason Voorhees The entire beginning of part 4 was deleted As was hinted in the first Halloween and shown in part 5, there is a conspiracy between Mikael and the hospital and doctor from the first film. (didn't have to change that one) Laurie never died in a car crash, removed that line of dialog Halloween 4, 5, and some of part 6, are now a single film that's all for now
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Post by CK on Aug 11, 2012 17:32:59 GMT -5
One question WHY?
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Post by CT on Aug 11, 2012 17:40:20 GMT -5
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Post by CK on Aug 11, 2012 17:48:38 GMT -5
Im recovering and I WANT WEED NOW lmfao!!!
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Post by CT on Aug 12, 2012 4:59:48 GMT -5
Im recovering and I WANT WEED NOW lmfao!!! Sorry The people who live in the Myers house in part 5 are just a family that happen to live in the house, I call them the "Thorns" You mean part 6? The entire beginning of part 4 was deleted Ouch. One of my favorite parts of the series.
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Post by Leatherface on Aug 12, 2012 14:35:45 GMT -5
Not to be rude Clath but what's the point really? None of the Halloween films are ever gonna be perfect and making the edits more or less points out their flaws rather than getting rid of them. The truth is that they are loved as they are, look at Star Wars for instance. Everyone hates the new edits done to the original films because they were just fine as they were.
Also it's Michael, not Mikael.
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Post by CT on Aug 12, 2012 14:59:32 GMT -5
Not to be rude Clath but what's the point really? None of the Halloween films are ever gonna be perfect and making the edits more or less points out their flaws rather than getting rid of them. The truth is that they are loved as they are, look at Star Wars for instance. Everyone hates the new edits done to the original films because they were just fine as they were. Also it's Michael, not Mikael. Don't be so sure LF, maybe that was one of the changes.
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