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Post by Jen on Nov 26, 2013 3:06:56 GMT -5
A lot of the time when you see me log in and I don't post it's because I am on my tablet and I hate the damn thing.....lol.... For some reason I have a lot of trouble posting with it. Anyway, I will try to do better.... Still not caught up on this. Though my dad spoiled me bit during our last telephone conversation.
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Post by Jen on Dec 3, 2013 13:02:09 GMT -5
We are finally all caught up.
Really loving this so far. I love that they have given more complexity to Cordelia and her husband's relationship. Her gaining a new ability after the attack has made things more interesting. Nice to see someone have a bit of the upper hand over Fiona. Fiona's manipulations have become more disturbing and desperate, and as always, Lange's performance is fantastic. Also good to see Zoe becoming stronger. I'm on the fence about the storyline with Kyle, though it has been kind of an emotional punch. It's definitely disturbing, and really sad.
I'm hoping there is more of a showdown with Fiona and Laveau, as Bassett and Lange play off each very well. And they are both disturbingly powerful and ruthless.
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Post by The Walking Dude on Dec 3, 2013 18:44:46 GMT -5
I caught up just in time for last week episode - which wasnt on I have to agree about the Kyle story, it just seems a bit tacked on so they could have a role for Evan Peters again, but then this show has always had a habit of making me think this before revealing just how integral the stories are. Heck the Cordelia story has done this already this season! I'm not sure which showdown I'm looking forward to more Zoe v Fiona or Fiona vs Laveau. And how is Misty going to get more involved? at least this show will help fill the void without The Walking Dead for 2 months
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Post by GL on Dec 4, 2013 11:53:01 GMT -5
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one not impressed with the reanimated boyfriend, mostly because it doesn't amount to anything. He's basically done nothing but stand around looking depressed at his condition and then fly into a rage over and over again, and considering the power being wielded in that house I'd think something would be done to ensure he would be safe and normal again. Madison coming back and pretty much being the exact same really makes me question that part as well since she seems fine and doesn't have too many issues from the reanimation (besides the constant claims of being cold which is understandable) but she's fine and normal under the same process he came back to life by so it's a little weird for me.
As well, the sudden appearance of the freed axe killer is a little strange as it doesn't really seem to be there to offer anything other than a playmate for Fiona and that's not really all that interesting a storyline anyway as it tends to really put a backburner on his true nature rather than giving him something to do and just seems like it's there merely to get another big name in the cast as there's no need for him to be there in the first place. This whole storyline doesn't make any sense.
That said, I'm beginning to get into the newly awakened powers in Cordelia (for once, she's giving a plotline I actually have interest in) and the dawning realization of her husband makes for some interesting twists. It adds a new wrinkle in the Fiona/Laveau storyline when they eventually come to a head and really helps little-by-little add to the Fiona/Zoe storyline as I figure she'll be the one to finally put all the pieces together about her handiwork in controlling onto her legacy and that will lead to the final confrontation between them to avenge her friends. She's geared to be the next Supreme anyway since more-than-likely it would've passed by Madison once she died and then turned to the next in line, but I'm just spit-balling off the top of my head on this one.
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Post by Jen on Dec 4, 2013 12:18:30 GMT -5
I think it's because Kyle was so much more damaged than Madison. He was torn apart in the accident (well not so much an accident...lol) and I think his brain is also far more damaged than Madison's would be. Kyle is clearly like Frankenstein's monster in his lack of control and emotional baggage. In a way, I feel he is just there to shine a more direct light on Zoe's sexual frustration. I think it's interesting they made him a victim of sexual abuse (from his mother, which is something that seems rare in movies/shows exploring the issues that victims face), so I don't think it's a total waste. But we'll see where they go with it.
Actually I do agree about the Axeman. I don't mind that he exists, I like the idea of a malevolent spirit that is released, and it was another way to show how powerful Zoe is becoming. But the relationship with Fiona is odd and doesn't really add anything. Not yet anyway.
Oh and I think Zoe was always meant to be the next Supreme. Madison never was. Cordelia said that Madison had a heart problem, and that someone that is meant to be the next Supreme would be in perfect health.
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Post by GL on Dec 5, 2013 11:25:38 GMT -5
I get that about Kyle, especially in the beginning as that's essentially what he is now, a Frankenstein'd being that really has no ability to control what aren't his body parts anymore, they belong to someone else and would need time to heal and replenish themselves before being like normal again. Still, after the encounter with Misty in her shack and how that helped heal him even more, why he was still acting out was a little disconcerting.
After last night's episode, perhaps that will change with some resolution given to that storyline in the manner of a new addition to his teachings, a children's reading book that might help restore some humanity to him and stop his craziness. There's some good parts about that now going forward so he doesn't keep acting like a crazed maniac and makes him a little more sympathetic.
I also really enjoyed the furthering saga of the revenge against Fiona. Finally bringing Madison into her conscious with the suicide attempt as well as having Myrtle back to life finally brings some great opportunities against her and really has some fun times in her with the tormenting her in the bedroom and the advancing signs of the illness finally coming to fruition against her, though it really seems that there's a lack of long-term thinking in regards to this as it tends to throw one storyline after another without really putting logic behind it. First, she kills Madison to protect her powers, frames Myrtle for an attack she committed and is now supposed to be getting her comeuppance. However, the ghost butler showing her the truth with no rhyme or reason for him to help her simply to carry on the storyline makes no sense, they've already got the two alive and well with full knowledge of her deception and trickery, that ought to be more than enough to forcibly remove her from power one way or another but that would push the Madame Laveau confrontation into the background which is what they're setting this up for here with her being on the fringes the last two episodes but still very much in the forefront with the obvious power-confrontation to come. It just doesn't seem to build to anything with any sort of logic and consistency at all, just setting something in motion that has a rather creepy feel to it then dismissing it so it can set something else up to happen for next week's episode and it made for a rather distracting watch this time around.
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Post by Jen on Dec 9, 2013 12:59:21 GMT -5
The butler is completely devoted to Fiona, so the idea that he would come to her aid after being murdered in the house makes sense to me. I thought the whole set up of Fiona was really well done. I loved that little moment between Cordelia and Fiona afterward, it said so much about the relationship between the two of them. I also thought the moments between Kyle and Zoe were very sweet. Nice to see Myrtle ànd Misty come into fold. So looking forward to the showdown brewing. Also pretty intrigued that the next Supreme is still kind of up in the air. I think it would be fantastic if Myrtle is right and it's Misty....lol.
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Post by GL on Dec 11, 2013 12:06:29 GMT -5
To me, I'd like it a lot more if the whole returning-from-the-dead-to-warn-her angle didn't feel like cheap ploy to keep the story going about her being in control of the coven. It just seems like they're making it up as they go instead of reaching a plausible long-term story arc where it all leads to the girls' retribution against her, whereas now it just feels like they're trying to do this one week at a time and not going anywhere with it. Seems like every week there's something they need to fix about her potentially loosing control yet it's hardly ever done to where it's logical and flows from one episode to the next, more so about trying to have a dramatic storyline for their hour+ running time. I just hate that it comes off that way.
The rest of it I don't have a lot of issues with, the issues with the new Supreme being either Misty or Zoe makes for a great storyline over what Fiona's going to do to them, Cordelia getting her senses honed enough to be able to find out the truth about the attack and the upcoming explosion between Fiona and Madame LeVeau with LaLaurie in the mix should be a lot of fun.
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Post by GL on Dec 12, 2013 12:30:05 GMT -5
So, we actually got a great episode last night that really worked quite well. We got tons of resolution on the attack on Cordelia (more on that in a bit) things heating up between the voodoo gang and the witch coven as well as as the full-realization of the extent Fiona will go through to keep her powers.
First off, the confrontation between the two different society's looks to really get interesting, as the assault on the salon and the final moments leads to quite a strong set of possibilities in the future. The ramifications are quite interesting: the husband is the one responsible for the massacre, regardless of Cordelia knowing about it or even authorizing it, so how will that play into the peace talks that were initially going to be settling upon earlier? It's quite intriguing.
The scenes with Myrtle exacting revenge on herself is quite fun, solving three different storylines by my count: her wrongful death, why the counsel overlooked her innocence in the first place, Cordelia's accidental blinding. This is perfectly resolved and gets things back to where it should've been long ago as the acid attack didn't really mean much other than expose the husband's adultery and not much else so to finally be given this is quite nice.
Now, the only thing left is what I mentioned earlier, the attack on her in the first place. The introduction to the society of witch-hunters working together for the Corporation seems like another of those introduced-only-to-get-thrown-aside scenarios that's been repeated a lot this season, as I actually wouldn't have minded such a ploy for the final few episodes, yet here there's a potentially intriguing angle that gets cut off after a single episode. Really should've been played with more, as it does come out of nowhere not having been mentioned the last few episodes so this does tend to make it feel even more like a dramatic episode arc rather than a logical cohesive storyline.
Either way, this was certainly a fine episode over the last few that I had some issues with.
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Post by The Walking Dude on Dec 13, 2013 15:39:16 GMT -5
The last 2 eps have been fantastic,pissed off that we have to wait 3 weeks now . The ending came as quite a shock,and things are going to be interesting now that Laveau and Fiona have called a truce to fight the bigger enemy.Glad they finally seem to have revealed a point for Kyle now too. Gonna be a long 3 weeks.
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