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Post by CK on May 4, 2008 18:38:37 GMT -5
I just want to know why there is no spot for "Snakes on a Plane"!!!!!!!!
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Post by The Walking Dude on May 5, 2008 4:53:06 GMT -5
So true about 9/11 even on the other side of the world its shockwaves are still being felt,and i think it is no small coicidence that HO1C(a film made two years before) was released only a matter of months after,by a company run by genre savvy people who realised it was the 'right time' to release a film of it's type.
Again i need to go back to the 70's to prove this point........it's 1978,Theodore Robert Bundy invades a sorority,brutally bludgeoning to death several students,and severely injuring others ....again in 1978 a small independant company releases Halloween .... opening the bloodgates for numerous slashers which had as their subject matter a hulking mass murderer who invades a sorority house, brutally stabbing to death several students and severely injuring others......flash forward to the 90's, in a quick to blame generation where every horrific crime was blamed on some sort of scapegoat ie movies,video games music et al what did we get ....Scream, now we can't blame S ceam for how lame it's many knock-off's were any more than we can blame Halloween for it's clones can we?
What i'm gettting at here is that the horrors of each generation relect its generation, basically in this decade we have the so- called 'torture porn'( i really hate that term ) and remakes, why?because what do we see? Torture in Abu Girad and Guatalemo Bay, and a generation bereft of ideas. and therefore House of 1000 corpses fits the bill on both counts.
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Post by GL on May 5, 2008 10:30:36 GMT -5
I just don't buy into it as the decade-defining film of this decade. When I look at the others on my list, I see a group of films that either paved the way for how the whole decade as a whole could be grouped together (Halloween, Scream) or by what became popular enough to have the majority of efforts released be influenced by that particular film (Friday the 13th) and I just don't see as big of an influence from the film spread throughout the decade. I see it as something that was popular for a year or so, and then died away, which doesn't seem like it's a strong enough effort. Had it been otherwise, then we would've seen an impact from the film throughout the years, rather than just a few scattered throughout here and there. Compared to Friday the 13th, which had imitations throughout the decade in the form ofq the slasher genre, you could pick a year in that decade, and without naming a sequel, come up with at least three films that were influenced by it. I fail to see something like that with House of 1000 Corpses, and see it more in The Ring, which is why I think of that one as this decades big film.
And CK, I didn't add it because it failed to meet either standard: there's been no films influenced by it, nor did it do something that will make others see it as an influence outside of it's genre.
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Post by CK on May 5, 2008 11:19:03 GMT -5
And CK, I didn't add it because it failed to meet either standard: there's been no films influenced by it, nor did it do something that will make others see it as an influence outside of it's genre. Actually I was being sarcastic. LOL
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Post by bobbygoreful on May 26, 2008 9:18:29 GMT -5
Yes one of my favorite topics to do, this is not as easy at it looks, as there are many films that flopped big time at the box office. If we go at this angle box office wise, sadly we gotta give the name to Saw(which is terrible sience I feel that movie is complete crap), The Ring is better then your average horror asian remake but the problem there for me is if that is the best in ten years there is a problem as it was not that great, plus it was not a original film which bothers me. Then there is Wolf Creek which horror fans do like, but is it regonized enough? I am not sure if it is. Same goes with The Devil's Rejects. Also watch out for the French, with Inside, High Tension, Frontiers and the new film Martyrs coming they could deliver what may be called this decades Halloween.
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Post by GL on May 26, 2008 10:12:16 GMT -5
I haven't been too impressed with the French's output at all. Saint Ange is deadly dull, Ils was terribly disappointing after it's spectacular opening, and I can't finish Calvaire at all. Those were each proclaimed as classics or the best film of the decade when released, but none of them were really all that good and have made me a little leery towards their new stuff.
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Post by bobbygoreful on May 26, 2008 10:21:25 GMT -5
I know It's gonna seem like I am contradicting myself from my earlier post but I agree 100 percent with GL. Their movies like Calvaire which people loved failed to impress me. Maybe there new films like Inside which is supposed to be so gory, is a step in the right direction.
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Post by Jen on May 26, 2008 11:39:51 GMT -5
I haven't seen many French horror films. I am definitely looking forward to Inside and Them, and I also have Frontiers in my Netflix queue. And I actually liked Calvaire, even though I wasn't really sure how to take it, really.
I will say that I do NOT like High Tension. I had the same problem with that film that I have with Saw, it thinks it is far more clever than it really is. Which is really kind of unfortunate, because it could have been great. A lot of it IS great, though it did seem to follow the Dean Koontz book Intensity a bit too much.
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Post by bobbygoreful on May 27, 2008 9:52:05 GMT -5
Calvaire was just overlong and a little to boring for my taste, I felt that it thought it was so disturbing and was not at all. It looked great and was made fine though. I love High Tension, yes the end is well ???yeah, but overall it is a fun and gory ride. I hate Saw though everything about it.
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Post by GL on May 27, 2008 10:03:34 GMT -5
That right there is perfectly what I thought about Calvaire. It thought it was twisted and disturbing, but instead was just a dull, boring drag that never once got under my skin or crept me out.
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Post by Jen on May 27, 2008 10:29:29 GMT -5
I tend to dislike movies that pretty much ignore everything that happens up to a point, to just shock the audience....which is what I felt High Tension did. They went for the "shocking twist" (which I saw coming from a mile away, but hoped I was wrong) instead of just trying to make a good horror film. I thought Saw was the same way kind of. I didn't see THAT twist coming, but I found it hilarious. I couldn't stop laughing. As I have said before, I doubt that was the desired effect.... And not to mention Cary Elwes (who I usually like) was ridiculously bad and had practically ruined the movie for me up to the point anyway. Calvaire I think it is interesting and strange, but I can actually see why others wouldn't like it. What I didn't really get is the attempts at humor. I've heard it described as a dark comedy, and in that way it falls kind of flat for me (except for maybe the scene in the bar, which is very creepy and oddly amusing, and probably the best scene in the movie). Its the kind of film that I think has some really creepy, well done scenes....and then other moments that just don't work at all. But considering the plot is so generic in some ways, it still tries to do something a little different, so I definitely give it credit for that.
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Post by GP on May 28, 2008 12:28:41 GMT -5
That right there is perfectly what I thought about Calvaire. It thought it was twisted and disturbing, but instead was just a dull, boring drag that never once got under my skin or crept me out. Calvaire was packaged as a horror outside of France but to me it came across as a black comedy. I loved it. Particularly the strange dance number in the bar.
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Post by CK on May 28, 2008 21:04:46 GMT -5
But what about when the dude threw the chiuawa to the anaconda in SNAKES ON A PLANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL
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Post by bobbygoreful on May 29, 2008 9:46:52 GMT -5
I really wanted to see Calvaire as a black comedy, but when was it supposed to be funny, that strange dance was kinda funny, but the first time I saw it I was kinda speechless. I see it as a mix of all the genres and I do believe it collapsed under it's own weight. But I will say again that it looks amazing.
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Post by Jen on May 30, 2008 11:00:10 GMT -5
But what about when the dude threw the chiuawa to the anaconda in SNAKES ON A PLANE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL You have to let it go CK....just let it go....
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