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Post by abraxas on May 5, 2010 14:06:10 GMT -5
So are we no longer to discuss this then because I have got a few monkey wrenches to throw into the wheels of GL's logic......... 1. There's no rotting skin to any of them. Their eyes are whitened out. (The professors wife was buried when she came out of the ground her flesh was rotted, Ash's girlfriend came out of the ground and was rotted. Zombies are often portrayed with glassy, glazed eyes.) 2. They fail to consume human flesh. As Abraxas said, they swallow souls, not flesh. Their main goal is not to consume the body and it's inner/outer parts, but a soul (the key word here is "consuming" both consume something, hence eat, hence swallow, whats not zombie like about that, the substance they are eating is irrelevant) 3. wasn't Cheryl still wriggling around despite being placed into about a dozen pieces (what about the cadaver zombie in Return if the living dead?) 4. Plus, they talk. What about Bub from Day of the dead......... "Hello aunt Alicia" One thing is certain G, we know way too much about zombies, that can't be healthy.
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Post by HNT on May 5, 2010 15:40:13 GMT -5
Sorry, I never meant to suggest that you guys shouldn't discuss it as much as you want. I was only suggesting that I don't think that I will be participating much in this particular conversation going forward. Of course you guys can debate this for the rest of time if it makes you happy
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Post by 7 on May 5, 2010 20:23:00 GMT -5
Yse, it appears you guys have reached an impasse. You won't get GL to concede anything, he is nearly immovable once he attaches himself to a certain idea or concept.
The back and forth here will go on forever, I'm quite sure of it.
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Post by abraxas on May 6, 2010 8:48:45 GMT -5
OK, well just for the record I never said it was a zombie movie, I merely said it was inspired by the zombie genre, I don't see how anyone can deny that, it seems pretty obvious, and in fact is well documented as being inspired by such. But I enjoyed the convo G
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Post by GL on May 6, 2010 9:48:49 GMT -5
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Post by CT on May 26, 2010 10:13:14 GMT -5
So here's a question for ya:
Which are more zombie-like?
Deadites or the infected?
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Post by HNT on May 26, 2010 16:47:56 GMT -5
I vote Deadites. The Infected were just lame. Now to be fair, fans of 28 Days Later are zombie like. They are the closest thing to mindless zombies that exist in the real world
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Post by abraxas on May 27, 2010 8:29:06 GMT -5
Oh boy here we go again Well the infected are certainly the most zombie like out of the two, there is in fact several examples of this in zombie film history. The 1969 Vincent Price film The Oblong Box for instance. The zombie in this is in the vein of the original zombies in movies such as White Zombie starring Bela Lugosi, but there is the idea of some kind of contagion present in the saliva. Long before 28 Days later you had the sequel to Fulchi' Zombi, where the "zombies" were the result of a chemical infection....lets not forget Return of the Living Dead, so the idea of zombies being created through some type of infection is well documented. In fact if you strip away all the reasons for the existence of zombies, what you are left with is basically a story about the spreading of disease. The Deadites (love them too) are more akin to Ray Harryhousen then George Romero.
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Post by CT on May 27, 2010 9:23:21 GMT -5
Haha HNT Abraxas Although if chemicals are involved like rotd it's basically a chemical reaction causing the dead to rise.
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Post by GL on May 27, 2010 9:55:41 GMT -5
To me, a zombie is a reanimated dead person (reactivated through any combination of a virus, voodoo or other supernatural phenomena) that is driven with a sole, inescapable desire to perform a specific activity, be that consumption of human flesh/blood, guardian/gate-keeper or even slave. That, to me, has always been my definition of a zombie, and the condition can be spread through the possessors to the victim or just solely afflict a certain portion of the society, but as long as that above happens, I call it a zombie.
Infected are a part of the zombie culture through the reanimation-through-virus category. They perform the functions required, they fit the reanimation profile and the behavior is accurate. Deadites are walking, talking, joke-cracking, tool-manipulating skeletons. There's nothing similar about them.
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Post by abraxas on May 28, 2010 5:15:07 GMT -5
Well not exactly, the initial zombie was one of the zombies (supposedly in Night of the Living Dead) which was brought to life (according to Return) by a chemical, but the rest of the zombies in Return of the Living Dead were brought back because the body of the freezer zombie was burned, hence the idea of a contagion being spread.
Of course you have the vampire/zombies of The Last Man on Earth starring Vincent Price, brought to life by some air born virus.
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Post by GL on May 28, 2010 9:42:34 GMT -5
A virus and a chemical contagion is the same thing, just different ways of saying it.
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Post by GL on May 31, 2010 10:27:23 GMT -5
Have one more to add to the list: I Sell the Dead. See thread in this section.
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Post by GL on Jun 8, 2010 9:44:36 GMT -5
Have one more to add to the list: Night of the Dead. See thread in this section.
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Post by GL on Jul 9, 2010 9:43:04 GMT -5
New updates on the list:
Moved All Souls Day: Dia de los Muertos from seen but unowned to the taped off cable section. See thread in this section.
Added Zombie Honeymoon to the taped off cable section. See thread in this section.
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